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As part of his Doctor Who 50th anniversary quest to interview someone connected with every single Doctor Who story, Toby Hadoke meets a man involved at the very beginning...
Toby has travelled back as far as he can go, and yet is being brought right up to date by his latest victim. They talk doppelgangers, moving cameras and being an outsider in yet another coup for this frankly amateur and rather Heath Robinson attempt at podcastery.
There'll be more from Toby next week, but if you have questions for Nick, David and Paul, or have any leads for Toby to help him reach his target number of Who-based alumni, you can mail in on email@example.com